Fuji Reorganization and Employment Security

McKinsey have been poking around on cost for years why has the T5 layer of managers not been removed. In my experience they largely work from home, demand lots of travel and are blockers to true change viewi g everything through their personal... — read more 

Just a general thread.

I am just a T3 employee do I don't know who is going to be laid off. But I am super frustrated with the current messaging by upper management in all areas. Design has become super important and we are hiring designers like crazy. This should not be... — read more 

Our area executive has informed several managers that they can encourage employees to cut their hours to avoid layoffs, transitioning from full-time to part-time contracts. SAP HR has engaged McKinsey & Company to determine which employees will be... — read more 

During our welcoming call, the new leader introduced himself, but obviously he forgot how we landed there, he was the CEO's executive assistant couple of years back. Note aside, If we observe this move, 3 previous executive assistants has been... — read more 

Is burning AI tokens being monitored, if yes, is it the once on hyperspace being monitored or even usage of EKX counts

More information will be shared via emails regarding Project Fuji which is actually a continuation of Project Mongoose but with a different name. Lots of discussions between HR and the Betriebsrat this time and the HR definitely won. The works... — read more 

https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/sap-freezes-hiring-travel-fund-134122456.html An article recently published. "SAP freezes hiring and travel to fund ’significant’ AI push - Reports" The spending reorientation is paired with a... — read more 

Most CEOs are starting to become aware of this and are trying to figure out solutions. Not us, though. SAP is doubling down. Wait until we start getting charged non-subsidized rates.

Not so shocking report from Mistral - if companies use closed AI models then these models from vendors will end up learning the business operations of these companies and make them redundant! Is SAP using closed or open AI... — read more 

https://x.com/LayoffAI/status/2073834293923910116 trust your board 🤦🏻‍♂️

We used to have a sick leave policy where you could take a half day sick leave or up to two days sick leave without a doctor's note. This is being changed so every half day or full day of sick leave needs a doctor's note. If there is no note, the... — read more 

When and which teams would be impacted

SAP SE is divvying up responsibilities for its product and engineering functions in its second top-level reorganization this year, people familiar with the matter said, as Europe’s largest software company grapples with staying ahead of rising... — read more 

Well, that's disappointing. Sincerely. Who pushed out next?

A colleague from the Betriebsrat has indicated that discussions about layoffs are underway, but no decisions have been finalized yet. Executives are strongly promoting the idea that AI is fully operational and capable of replacing most... — read more 

Rumors are about 10,000 people will be affected. Will this involve layoffs? Or will there be mainly box moves? Does anybody know more?

Reference - https://www.hcamag.com/au/specialisation/hr-technology/all-our-human-developers-could-be-replaced-by-ai-within-a-few-years-sap-boss/579647 Statement of intent which will be moved towards gradual actions!

We keep laying people off, and yet we keep posting openings at the same time. What's the point?

or has severance really change drastically for the worse over the years?

It's easy to focus on quarterly headlines. Harder to ignore a 46%+ loss in market value over 12 months. Don't forget the big picture.

Someone mentioned on this forum not long ago that the executive board wants to take the share price below €100 so they can have more layoffs. It seems it's on track to do that. This AI obsession with price increase makes no sense. What is the tipping... — read more 

First quarter bonus didn’t show up. Then they said they are working to resolve the issues. Is there a date by which this will be resolved?

Does anyone know when is the next wave of layoff coming and if they would be giving us severance package? I am sick of upper management

Except when it comes to bonuses, which mostly go to those on top. And layoffs, which mostly affected those of us not on top. And raises. And so on. But we're all in this together! /s

At some point, layoffs at SAP stopped being a last resort and started being a standard business tool. Instead of exhausting every other option first, cutting employees is now the main go-to move whenever costs need trimming.

Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on". It seems SAP is going in the same direction. Our uptime on MS Teams and meeting time is already... — read more 

Stock at € 168.30 / $ 181.79. There is no need for layoffs. Looks good for all of us.

There are so many rumors about layoffs on this forum. But none of them are based on facts. Please focus on facts. For example, let‘s talk about the enshittification of the company culture and the effects on staff turnover. That is something that can... — read more 

Up to double the previous number from the last round. Hopefully all the illegal aliens will be shipped back so we can get on with stabilizing a western company.

https://l.smartnews.com/p-7N8S54w8/P2qeIM Claude Code launched inside Microsoft's Experiences and Devices group in December 2025. Six months later, the experiment is ending. The tool was not cancelled because engineers disliked it. It was cancelled... — read more 

I have put up with being underpaid and overworked for years because I am used to it. But my new manager has crossed a line. I refuse to be yelled at and bullied every single day by someone who only got his job because he knows how to flatter the... — read more 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-05-20/ceos-at-novo-nestle-push-work-cultures-into-results-mode

Is SAP still a software company? CK opened with this question at Sapphire. There are more and more reports of SAP moving away from creating software products. And CK wants SAP to become the largest private and public sector data store for Palantir... — read more 

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I got out of SAP 12 Months ago and it's been the best decision I've made. I was a decade within the company. But if you are sick of the BS just move on. Life is too short and wasting bandwidth in this forum.

What was the Trust in Leadership score this time? I didn't see it in Gina's email. Did it go up or down?

It seems that now our bonuses are also calculated with the WHAT and HOW scores. My manager created easy goals for a couple of colleagues who are her friends and asked them to copy paste them in the system. But with me, we used AI and my my goals are... — read more 

All hands ? What is that deal with that